Dump topic for stuff thecatamites/bonzi_buddy/etc. might like
Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:33 AM
Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live.
Posted 15 August 2018 - 08:33 AM
Oh i forgot... all that buzz over the black gay fighting game furry champion? Once again salt world presages the topics of the coming millennium.... Area 51....Osama Bin Laden..................
Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:35 AM
*looks conspirational to cicada ragnar unguided* *all guys are in cult robes with hoods on* Hail to the thief... HAIL to the thief... *they chant together, ragnar tries to slip in "twin" instead of "thief"* i know this is sorta late but I didn't stop checking out this place & readin the topic... just been extremely busy with irl / some crazy shit that doesn't seem to leave me yet properly so i don't have spare energy to write here lot of times. i did have my share of weirdo music obsessions etc... so i actually have tiny bit some utubes to share, maybe when proper time... that is all... i hope... you... all... do... WELL...
im mostly these days having my own sort of assortment of inventory of FUN *everybody startlejumps in their seat from surprise* nah jokes aside and behind... hmmm... it seems that i'm sort of obsessing over jrpg's a tiny little bit again, but i think i've made headway otherwise with the stark dim realities of dank synths etc. (i seem to try to drive myself off the road all the time with these texts lmao. i'm mine and reader's worst enemy). SO *looks quietly sternly and accusatively to bonzi in eyes, bonzi nervously tries to look elsewhere then gets primateself together*
So, i guess i've made some headway into new interests and stuff, and i guess i mostly write these days, rather than "check out" /many/ youtubes or experiences (i mean i watch it every day for sure, but not anymore to amass them in a sense, so ofc i link stuff elsewhere).
like i mean yeah, it (art media) does have it's place in late teenagerhood-early adolescence like videogaming does, but it seems the brain is happy with the past catalog-archives of rich experiences and now seems to be in architechture mode?
i think lot of the things from feminiscience and dumb topic reflectioning still stands, but it seems the zeitgeist of 2018 times is the sort of disintegration, then the current integration of past medias and concepts into something else?
like you know, the weird shift from "ok lets just all stop collectively listening and making abstract music art from subconscious in general" - phase seems to have weird consequences due to youtube, where... like, fringe music people (like for example music theorist and composers) are making really interesting and easy-to-understand but also entertaining videos about the mathe-architechtural structure of western music harmony.
like who da thunk? its bit like how the dumb topic -like videogames transformed into lifelike, poor AAA videogames and hipstery stuff within 2-10's to 2-17's ... but now there's a weird sense of some people returning naturally to weirdo abstract games or concepts i guess?
it's like it's hanging in the air, some kind of "new nerdiness and civil moderativiness", and sometimes you catch glimpses of it in youtube. like all these new movements and thoughts-theories are arising ONLY in the youtube and spreads to elsewhere, rather than in traditional structures of the industry or media.
another example, like actual hipster fashion sense, there's a sense that the real deal that superficial youth stuff did was an arise of adult concepts/trends and general seperation from teenagerhood concepts? like the explosion of different beards and mustaches in west etc. there's now an arise of black republicans who now talk about real issues in black communities in america etc etc...
and the way i feel this stuff... it feels like after years of disintegrated genres and forms, and years of spectacle, it seems people are just now more steadfast and determined to out-alpha everyone... AND BECOME A GINORMOUS NERDS but in a good, reneissance way i suppose? people are casually talking about looking up to nikola tesla, or thinking seriously about going to space mining, etc... the "political correctness" movement and popular behauviors and long-standing modes of thinking or accepted behauvior is waning, and curiously you get some very balanced thoughtful normal people in youtube instead getting traction. you start to see long-form interviews of people becoming more and more popular, and people are actively craving for new information and information distillation (residing in truth), rather than behave like the 2000's bucktoother hipster designer claiming big changes and creativity but proving out nothing.
well, i'm not saying this all as sort of "wow we're all saved, it's going to be great" or like, be starry eyed or whatever. but just pointing out the feel or sense of smell of the times. could be, not sure, but could be the general disgust with superficial media and the whole absorber-to-sensory-experiences-only revolution from the 60's. and i mean why wouldn't we? we see the arise of china and india, and the mass immigrations to america and europe. it's stepping up the game -time i suppose? and i guess the novelty from "wow look at these amazing experiences" are waning off, and now there's the moment of "gahhh the hangover". like what am i GONNA DO with this long history of rich concepts and art? what's gonna HAPPEN? what am i, yes i, UP TO?!? i dunno, but i think it's gonna be measured... we might see a backlash to obsessive introversion and it's related narrow perspective as well. there's gonna be the question of what actually constitutes the right path to future, and what is just inflexibility and stagnation even from the left-field perspective. do you close your eyes for next 20 years as well, or are you quietly thinking what needs to be done in an upright steadfast manner?
i guess to quickly finish this off, something i'm thinking at times is the idea of how eg music relates to future. i mean this is propably now a hangover to the unspoken fact that pop/art music even at best is just a reflection of the popular values of Now, rather than necessarily distilled wisdom of past or the interesting future? and the consequence we now see is that since it's extremely difficult to make a living in music now, it's again becoming sort of a sandbox for actually new or weird ideas rather than selling identity or tribe to teenagers who know nothing about life yet. i'm not saying this with glee, since like i said you can't really make money out of it easily, from introspective music for the past 20 years. and i mean it's going to be TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONS endlessly so what's the point? been there done that, ain't nowhere to go if you hang around.
i guess now that i returned to/revisit the osbcure and great jrpgs, i kinda understand that lof of the fine points of that artform and it's time are impossible to convey through the compulsory "coolness" filter in pop music, and realizing that was a big epiphany. lot of nuances and fine points are just... gone. how to convey rm2k in music?!??!! how to convey ff6 through IDEAS?? now thats a HOT TOPIC that TURNS MY SNES ON.
Posted 03 October 2018 - 03:55 AM
or to put it in short and immediately understandable form, just replace purple orangutan as main hero:
wait, a thunder... IS THAT A POST NOTIFICATION FROM DUMB TOPIC?!
Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:50 AM
through some fluke I never got into any podcasts or youtuber personality types, beside a handful of low-key let's play types who don't put any persona at the forefront of the content. It really bothers me to see how youtube advertisement income carrot-sticks have impacted video essays because I just do not have the attention span anymore for a ten minute video where half of it is not really about anything. Even the ones with interesting sounding ideas would be conveyed better as an old school written essay on a simple text site with small screenshots to underline points so I can easily skim their hunch-baked insights for gold nuggets. also poor humor's easier to take when you don't have to hear the actual delivery.
I'm really glad to see everyone's posts because the last time I came here there were a ton of spam topics everywhere and not a peep in days. We looked really spooky and dingy.
just wrote a bunch of stuff trying to say something insightful about how crude and weird art is casually talked about in a derisive way and I realized in summing up my thoughts on the matter for the past few weeks it was just one big complaint about my own lack of productivity.
I think it's weird that when I was a kid it felt like pop culture as a whole lost a lot of ambition and forward-thinkingness within a few years. There wasn't any big event that I remember, even 9/11, things just really rapidly got boring looking and starting focusing on, like, war instead of cartoony futur anticipating futuristic stuff. Of course it happened during such a rapid transition of technology and a massive shift in corresponding ideals and visual focus, I have no idea to what extent that was the cause, and how much that's just a completely normal thing that happens to everyone as they age and their world expands and they get snobby. Regardless I have heard other people suggest there was a change around 2k from looking to the future to the present, then really quickly to the past in the 20th century like we wanted to go back. It would also be interesting to compare the movies that come out today to then in terms of # of remakes, reboots etc.... cause I know now we don't commonly do the whole ROCKY V, FRIDAY THE 13th XIII endless sequels as much, but since I was little it seems like there's more and more tired redos of stuff that's already been done, which I always thought was kind of blasphemous but is now just normal and accepted.
To me a big part of 80s media was the insane coked-out budgets, swollen tolerance of bizarreness (also coke?), infrastructure allowing inhuman time and effort that went into making all the details that people remember (many from their childhood eyes) as exemplifying a crude spirit of the 80s. But when people try to replicate the era they usually just put in guys with mustaches or the kind of illegitimate but commonly accepted "80s" symbology, palm trees and pink+blue color schemes. You don't as often hear about stuff like the Cold War imminent nuclear death sensation, which I have heard a few people talk about like it was fairly normal back then, and how the increasing awareness of that. At least to me, what stands out to me the most was how advanced the practical effects had gotten, and how respected they were, with even crude CGI being impractical, that you could have really high-level expensive fantastic, imaginative stuff done in a stage-prop-like way that still is visibly goofy artificial the obvious work of many hands, so you can take it sincerely or not, or take sincerely what they were GOING for; you have the opprtunity to enjoy it in many ways depending on whether or not you give them creative sympathy and suspend your disbelief. In children, the disbelief organ is very undeveloped and they need no special effort to appreciate something on its own merits, which results in them frequently walking curiously off cliffs and grabbing bright, inviting fires. The same goes for drug addicts and other compromised individuals.
So in the 2010s when the fake-retro-80s trend bloomed out of timeless underground nostalgia, becoming hip on the suburbanite level thanks to movies like Drive (2011), the idea of "80s" revival in many mediums, TV/movie, music/games, became normalized and even kinda played out now because its actual investment in 80s thoughts, aesthetics, atmosphere, recent past, interests, and hopes and dreams was so shallow.
A little later and fake-retro-90s is also firmly understood and similarly ignores the actual restrictions placed upon the environment that created the people's coincidental attitudes and available technology that created the 90s media we can still observe. However because the 90s had that nascent "hipness", looking to the future and cataloguing its past in eager preparation for hot new things, perhaps fell prey inevitable horrible meta-recursive cycle that commercializing that feeling. A big part of the 90s for me was the feeling of ascension and improving technology, with the new globalized internet systems creating a world where, as a kid, I got the impression we should all know about every country and what was going on in it. Growing up that sort of diverse globality was heavily promoted by schools, offices, tech companies, eco-awareness in the face of the changing climate, corporatism in the face of affirmative action. When I was a kid I thought bigotry was on its way towards being a solved problem for various naive reasons helped along by this sort of false worldliness popular in software and office decoration at the time, which was mostly what I paid attention to, being a nerdy kid. You can see people like Jay Tholen poking at these optimistic corporate ideas now with some suspicion, (false promises) or James Ferraro back in 2006-9 with a very intelligent reverence for the idea. Personally I like the Ferraro way of thinking, like there's a core of truth to the idea of a completely new, futuristic mode of computing that brings together the world without distorting the world in the process, in any way but that that helps our fellow earthlings live better lives. And really mean it, not just for customers.
Posted 06 October 2018 - 10:52 AM
i don't know who was the kind-hearted gentleman who fixed the bots but alas thank you? let's all assume it was either jester or frisky skelly. no wait, it was unguided. (it really DOES seem to start like a religion, there's an unknown big "daddy" who takes care of everything but never makes him known? *looks around the room spooked*)
great to hear just your random bluts, Ciccie. *nods to Ragnar in a holy manner* just to riff around wif ya, immediately blurting out without much thinking...
to me, a real eye-opener recently was checking out 1-2 hour interviews in the Rubin Show, and especially checking out all youtubes from Jordan Pieterson's channel (about judeo-christian mythology and ethics in West, and how it really shaped what it's become today... that man sorted me out in a time of crisis).
I thought I couldn't down a 10 minute youtube any longer, but after Rubin you realize in utter horror that the reason for that is because the videos and memes are done by people WHO DON'T THINK or are moderate... eeehhh... it's hard to put into words... it's like you automatically sense when a person hasn't thought it over or has some kinda agenda with you, that you are coming off from videos with MORE cognitive dissonance and suspension of disbelief, feeling that the quality of the thinking or idea is low or something...
then you go into an Rubin interview where they talk thoughtfully, moderately and sensibly about really important subjects and generally stay very sharp and non-emotional... for 2 hours straight at best, and holy moly you're invigorated. lot of traditional media along with it's group agenda's and sociopathy sudendly starts to seem super, duper hollow.
also heard that a lot of working men listen all day long to "long-form" podcasts or audio books while at work by these kind of people. so like, not all utubers or podcasters of them are in for that e-buck but are actually competent in their respective fields & thought shit over a lot and actually dare to say them out loud in open. so there's an interesting shift going on, here and there.
another musing: i think the "backwards looking" stuff you echoed from others... It's partially true, but i think in general it became "politically incorrect" to be "subconscious" anymore. after all, all great art and movements and thoughts come all together, deep from subconscious and as an answer to something important. if you've noticed, you are pressurised to be "woke" (=hypervigilant of your social environment) and in general see the world through the lense of social reality only. it's an ongoing assault.
think it this way: i could take your post out of context, and right now make a reaction video about it, and go with a caption "wow! triggered! did he just say that?". and if you examine your feelings, you feel: that irritation that "fucking hell, we're not talking fair and square here, it's now this game of putting words into other's mouth" type of thing. like DUMBING DOWN of everything, powermongering... but also feel of shame of "going unconsciois and let your mind do the talk unfiltered, to get to the heart of the matter". THAT is "political correctness".
not to say this that the situation is hopeless, not at all. give the Rubin stuff a chance, or Peterson. that shit sorted me out. i also needed in my personal life to sort many concurrent philosophical stuff out, and i think i also matured quite a bit.
also i have a hunch the reason why i keep pushing that envelope of mine's into some moderation - argument without actual audience to agree with me... damn i lost my thought. more on this later. but i do feel like the pressure to not to stay unconscious is pretty big these days. it's not so much as "conformity" or "looking the part" but i kinda of hyperreal metrics where the metrics think they got the life right... wow, i got it right NOW... such a success, much happiness... and its plenty attractive, because i learnt (again) from dumb topic stuff and art that it's largerly terrifyingly UNKNOWN. what do you do with something, that you can't fucking tame or control or predict!??! it's just as wild and unhinged as bonzi posts, where ciccie and raggie blows out air, loose ties, go *PHOOH, bonzi, erm, HUUH, haah, i don't think that was very POLITE... pant pant, bonzi you are drivelling in your obsessions FAR TOO LONG..." etc etc. bwahaha, im just putting words into your mouth. fools. bbhaaah *a cool goblin in a dirty trenchcoat and wild punkrocker hair takes a deep smoke from a boint*
Posted 06 October 2018 - 11:18 AM
i post some cool impressionism instead, i would had totally invited Debussy into dumb topic, then asked Ragnar to collab with him:</p>
Posted 06 October 2018 - 09:00 PM
hooooooooby / hooboy / scoby etc
I think a lot about when admins deleted the crap shack and that other forum, we lost a lot of stuff and it's a real shame. the adolescence of cboy etc.tim and eric were just airing on adult swim and it was a special time that is lost to art and history. just a lil unremarkable and low-brow thought spawned by cicada's profundity. I don't even know about james ferraro. I liked pony puddy's remark about the otherwise inaccessible art of jrpgs
Posted 07 October 2018 - 10:14 AM
Phillip Glass etc 80's stuff isn't nearly as remarkable as the japanese videogames were in this effort. Also probably revived interest into expanded harmonical language and scales than what the 60's blues-rock-country revolution did to musical harmonic language...
Western RPG's sorta played a part, yeah, but not as much since you can't really make low-resolution (pixel) games with CRPG's in mind... making CRPG's wasn't feasible for your every teenager like JRPG's did (so it was essentially our times' rock n roll and woodstock. Earl excitedly sharing his CBS to young bonzi, who dreams of becoming like earl one day).
Also, JRPG's managed to distill many of the core essences and drama-writing of Old West mythos that appeals to younger ages. I mean try imagining the drama of manga shounen, and compare that to Marvel comics like Spider-man etc. You almost compulsively now add gigantic anime-eyes and lively facial expressions to Wolverine. might as well tattoo anime sweatdrop ironically on my forehead.
You could argue that hipster movement was secretely built on this legacy, since it has again become OK to be mature and old in fashion sense (FF6 is nothing BUT adult characters almost routinely, same for Romaning Saga games etc).
It's only a matter of time before you look like Locke from FF6, Earl. Just admit it. You always wanted that bandana and man-vest, you dirty italian feminine reneissance swashbuckler with earrings. Rawwwrrr.
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