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#1 Ryan

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:24 PM

Okay so my ATI Radeon x1950 just died. i need a new, decent, budget card. preferably $100 or less, my only income right now is mowing lawns.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:51 PM

http://www.tigerdire...AIN#detailspecs

This is PCI-E, I'm assuming you aren't using AGP but inform us if you are!
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:56 PM

PCI-E is fine

that's a pretty good price! any other suggestions?
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:57 PM

If you want to go the extra mile some versions of the 9800GT are also getting down near $100-130. As far as ATI goes... umm... I think the 3850 is around there.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:58 PM

are nvidia cards really that much better than ati? i've always used ati in the past but i don't care much about which brand
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:59 PM

It really depends on the card, tbh. You will hear fanboys from both sides argue either way. I personally like Nvidia, but ATI has some nice cards out there too.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:03 PM

okay thanks! i'll probably pick this up in the next week or two. thanks for the fast reply :-)
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:12 PM

What is your CPU, though? If you go for the 9800GT you might notice some bottlenecking, whereas you'll have a safer bet with the 9600. Although obviously at the cost of raw power. Also make sure you meet the power requirements for the cards.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:17 PM

i have a dual core amd athlon 5600+. 4 gigs of ram

ALSO i only have a 300w psu.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:24 PM

300W PSU might not cut it, I know the minimum for a 9800GT is 400W. I'm not sure about the 9600.
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Posted 14 April 2009 - 11:47 PM

I would say an 8800 GT or 9800 GT for an nvidia card, whichever you can find cheaper. Performance between them is very similar.

8800 GT:
http://www.epartsand...4m06#googlebase
http://www.ascendtec...VC512PNYG8800GT

9800 GT:
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125247
http://www.eworldsal...5883_27334.html


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Posted 14 April 2009 - 11:54 PM

Well the 8800GT draws even more power, so he's looking at a new PSU if he does that.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:16 AM

A 300watt PSU will work for either. Check out articles on power draw for the cards if you don't believe me.

http://www.anandtech...spx?i=3140&p=13
http://www.hardwarez...2688&cid=3&pg=9
http://www.pcper.com...pe=expert&pid=7

or you can combine the consumption yourself with
http://74.125.95.132...lient=firefox-a
and
http://74.125.95.132...lient=firefox-a

You wont have that much extra headroom afterwards, but as long as you don't have something like a big HDD raid setup, or huge chain of USB devices, you should be fine.

EDIT: it doesn't show TDP for 9800 GT or 8800 GT in the wiki article, but it lists the 9800 GTX as 197w and that card is quite literally two 8800 PCBs.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 12:24 AM

I suppose I am incorrect then, but it seems p close!
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 01:50 AM

Woah man, how is that 8800 GT from Ascendtech only $85??

The price on these things drop faster than I thought. You don't even need a card with more power than that.

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:51 AM

Woah man, how is that 8800 GT from Ascendtech only $85??

The price on these things drop faster than I thought. You don't even need a card with more power than that.


Yeah, seriously. The only reason to buy more than that is if you're getting SLI for high res (1680*1050) on games like fucking CRYSIS or if you are really fucking obsessive compulsive and absolutely MUST run crysis at high res with 16xAA

really though i have an 8800GTS 320 so i am seriously considering nabbing two of those because those in SLI should rock any game out right now with my monitor and it's dirt cheap. who the fuck needs a GTX 285 when you can get 50-80 FPS on Crysis at Very High?
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:54 AM

it seems to me like more and more these days if you're not really all that interested in just PLAYIN THE RAT RACE you can get seriously high end computers for $600 if you build them yourself.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:55 AM

IIRC you could also just grab one GTX260 216 though, and that's ~8800GT SLI so... plus they OC like a breeze up to 280 levels.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 06:56 AM

it seems to me like more and more these days if you're not really all that interested in just PLAYIN THE RAT RACE you can get seriously high end computers for $600 if you build them yourself.

Depends what you consider high end... but you're not going to get a 'serious' rig for only $600.
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:00 AM

Depends what you consider high end... but you're not going to get a 'serious' rig for only $600.


I don't see the point in paying thousands of dollars so you can get an extra 15 frames per second. a 5600+ with 9800s in SLI or a GTX260 is more than enough for anything you can throw at it and probably more than enough for anything coming out in the next year and a half, and when the 'next wave' of high end graphics hits you'd need to upgrade whatever you have anyhow.

honestly the only reason to spend more than 600-700 bucks on a computer that you're not using for something like RENDERING or INTENSIVE GRAPHICS WORK seems like just e-peen-wagging to me, honestly
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