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[jamie]

I'll be going to see the new Star Trek because I love Star Trek cos yes it's my kind of stupid. Star Trek is my really lame thing I like alot - it's adorable! Future of humanity is bright and perfect we're all gonna be renaissance folk in space it'll rule and if that idea doesn't fill you with just a little bit of hope then screw you! Screw. You!

However this new one will probably have all that adorable stuff strangled to death in JJ Abrhams capable hands. Guy is a waste. I've watched the clips and trailers and while the whole thing is all SHAKY CAM...THIS AIN'T YOUR DADDY'S STAR TREK!!!, there's something in it that actually annoyed me and tells me this isn't MY Star Trek.

There's product placement in it. At a bar (in space), Lt. Uhura orders a Budweiser Classic along with a couple of Cardassian Sunrises. One of those two is out of place in a century where money and business was supposed to be obselete. Also, I haven't seen this but apparently it's been confirmed that there is a Nokia logo in the movie somewhere and that they were paid for it.

I guess Kirk will be all "Mr. Spock, can I use your Holo-Phone - I've run out of minutes on mine AGAIN" and Spock will respond "Captain, it is not logical for you to use such a sub-par service provider when brands like Nokia exist. Here, use my Nokia Holo-Phone Lite. I have unlimited minutes on weekends. It is the only logical course of action at this juncture" and then everyone in the audience will ejaculate into their popcorn.

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

my kind of stupid definitely describes star trek to me, and yeah this movie looks like a standard blockbuster and whoever said prelim reviews are probably fat dumb nerds (remember that Kevin Smith gushed over Watchmen when he saw it, a movie that pretty much no one cares about now), but I'll be honest the first teaser of dudes BUILDING THE ENTERPRISE made me think "w00t".

but yeah it's not a retcon I heard which is weird and a lot of plot details I didn't pay attention to got leaked so there's loads to talk about here!

[jamie]

Yes there's a time travel bit about this new bad guy Nero coming back in time accidentally (I think) while trying to hunt down Ambassador Spock. Spock doesn't become an Ambassador until he's an old fart though so this is Nimoy's part of the movie which I am actually a little surprised with. I thought he would just be in the first scene and then it'd be "Let me tell you about a little ole ship called 'Enterprise'" and he'd stare wistfully out the window into the distant past but I guess he's got a slightly more substantial role.

Also, apparently there's going to be 3 of these movies and JJ Abrhams had it in his contract that there should be no new series for at least two years after this movie which on the one hand might annoy people but it makes me go all "ohh...new star trek series on the way!" cos if I know it's comin then I am a-okay. I don't want it to have anything to do with these movies though, based on what I've seen (and what I've seen obviously isn't actually the movie), but it will have to have that SYNERGY otherwise all the kids will just go waaaahhhttt?

I dunno. I always thought it was kind of wacky Star Trek got away with saying that in the future religions and currency will be laughable, archaic concepts to us humans but I'll bet this movie abandons that stuff. Star Trek was never really a huge blockbuster movie, I mean it certainly was mainstream yeah but this movie seems to have made it's goal being to shred away all those cool things that made Star Trek better than what it usually was.

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

were you a fan of the original star trek btw?

i wasn't! i was next gen and beyond, and while i can watch the older stuff i gotta admit it seems actually WORSE in every way. not just dated but bad acting etc.

like i'm wondering how many of us saying YEA THIS IS MY KIND OF LAME are referring in fact to the later kind of lame.

[headphonics]

i cant watch the original.  its really awful man.  tng is still kind of awful but in a different and much more acceptable way.  and it's not even ACROSS THE BOARD awful like tos was.

[jamie]

I'm not big on the original series. The good intentions of the whole idea is outweighed by the total failure to realise them plus it's just kind of hard to stay interested in TV storytelling that primitive, especially when alot of the episodes are just shit, anyway. I don't hate it, but I'm definitely not an original series guy.

Did you know that the original pilot of the original series had a female first officer? The network told Roddenberry to fuck off with that thought, and they tried to get Uhura off the bridge as well but he wouldn't budge on that one apparently. The show is still crazily sexist, obviously, but seeing that he tried to put a woman as the No.2 made me like the guy a little more.

My favourite is TNG. I like DS9 quite alot as well, and I've never watched Voyager or Enterprise very much, just a couple episodes if it was late night and I was bored anyway.

[big ass skelly]

TOS more like POS....

I'm no trekky. Gonna watch this though cause I do like sci fi but it looks kinda dumb. JJ abrams doesn't fill me with confidence. This is one instance where product placement and awful stuff like that might make me half smile because I can just imagine the impotent rage it'll fill so many trekkies with

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

wait i thought jamie was kidding.

dude what the fuck why would a multimillion dollar movie based on fucking star trek NEED product placement?

jesus christ that means he's doing it EXCLUSIVELY for product placement money. ugh. that actually is pretty shit.

[Massy2k6]

I never liked the original series and even the cgi from TNG was too out-dated for me but I love the rest of the shows and just glad to be getting more Star Trek for me to watch.

[Christophomicus]

Yeah this wasn't too bad. It wasn't too good either. Went to an advanced screening tonight.

I dunno, it's alright, it was just pretty god damn average. Looked nice tho!

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

the av club put this up obviously in anticipation of the movie: http://www.avclub.co...lesson,27462/1/

honestly kind of distressed by how many of these i knew offhand.

[Rowain]

Yeah this wasn't too bad. It wasn't too good either. Went to an advanced screening tonight.

I dunno, it's alright, it was just pretty god damn average. Looked nice tho!

Did they put the sexy back in Star Trek????

[Christophomicus]

Whoever was playing Uhura certainly didn't look bad walking around in a mini-skirt.

And that Chris Pine, w-whoa... what a qt *_*

[Rowain]

See I know I'm not the only one who finds it a little silly to retcon Star Trek and keep the horrendously stupid uniform from the TOS era. I know the fans would've shit bricks, chewed them up again in anger, and shit them out a second time but couldn't they have just adapted them a little to be a bit more TNG-style? All the Treks had some horrendous costumes (so many fucking jumpsuits, I feel bad for the kid who played Jake on DS9) but at least the Federation uniforms from TNG onwards were semi decent and believable. But jesus, all the female officers in miniskirts in TOS is just so bad and so 60s.

also I just went to Rotten Tomatoes and the reviewer snippet from a dude named Mark Ramsey who writes for "Movie Juice!" is:

The average Star Trek fan is fatter than a Mugatu. And I mean the kind of Mugatu that just ate a family of Mugatus. Hey, fella, is that your mouth or the Doomsday Machine?

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

hahah review jesus christ.

also I agree I know they had to strike a balance and for its time Star Trek was insanely progressive but those skirts are so fucking dated to the extent I feel genuinely uncomfortable.

like now we are kind of closer to the future and I can't imagine it would look like this at places anymore. and questions that were salient as fuck before are now definitely just irrelevant (chekhov was a cold war reference but for us it's gonna be like "why would they even have russian accents this far in the future?) and in the case of any ep with a woman, horribly sexist.

[jamie]

I'll probably go see this the day after tomorrow.

[Rowain]

I just remembered that early eps of TNG actually had the miniskirt uniforms too, but they started phasing those out really early

[jamie]

They had them for the male crew as well. I distinctly remember it. None of the main cast, but extras.

[ATARI]

where do you live that you got to see an advance showing

[Artis Leon Ivey Jr]

everywhere.

http://www.bigscreen...5-08&view=sched

seriously there's a bunch of places, if you are near an urban area you can find one.