tell me about... jazz.
Posted 03 May 2009 - 10:34 PM
i have two miles davis albums, Bitches Brew and Kind of Blue. this makes me feel like a loser. could someone gimme say like a JAZZ 101 so i could get some context to build upon?? i will report back with findings. all those knowledgeable enough to participate, commence circ jerk
also if anyone here likes jazz talk about it. not too many topics to bump down anyway SO!
in addition: :ganja:
Posted 03 May 2009 - 10:39 PM
What other kind of jazz do you like? It's a really broad genre. Big Band jazz is completely opposite from say like Cool Jazz. What kind of stuff are you looking for?
Posted 03 May 2009 - 10:48 PM
I mean I'm a fan but then this means I will actually have an opinion on recordings of jazz and do you...do you come back from that...
but yeah goddam man this topic has the potential to go anywhere, point the gun.
Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:07 PM
i'm a big kind of blue fan so how about anything in that vain? not sure how to describe it though. slower, atmospheric? idk THESE SONGS FEEL LIKE SEASONS seems like the best way to describe it if that makes any sense
but yeah anything before that that was an influence or after that was then influenced would rock
and i know the topic is shit but did you see how modern lit started :P
Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:10 PM
Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:15 PM
Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:47 PM
there's so many varieties of jazz though. i assume you like combo jazz more than big band stuff like count basie???
anyways the artists i listed i believe have all played with miles so that could be a start if you don't know them already.
Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:51 PM
Miles Davis - On the Corner (this is the most out-there I've heard Miles, and my favourite of his records. incredible!)
Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um (this one is a must, shufflin' beboppin' awesomeness)
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme (fucking cannon)
Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters (as far as I'm aware, one of the first records to mix jazz and funk. this is absolutely brilliant.)
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats (jazz-fusion. A good starting place for both Zappa and jazz, though not really representative of either)
I haven't listened to them in years and years, but I used to really dig The Mahavishnu Orchestra. They kinda sound like a decent Mars Volta. There are a collective of London jazz musicians making music at the moment, seemingly strung together by a drummer with amazing hair named Seb Rochford. The 2 most well known bands from this group are Polar Bear and Acoustic Ladyland. Well worth checking out. Oh god, and what about Louis Armstrong? Thelonius Monk? Duke Ellington? Ornette Coleman? Sun Ra? Dave Brubeck Quartet? 70s stuff like Jaco Pastorius and Weather Report (i've personally gone off this now, but they're held in very high regard).
gaah....gonna go dig out some jazz now. I'm really just throwing names at you, it's been a while, and like I said, I know next to nothing about the genre.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 01:59 AM
Can anyone possibly recommend me something that's big band like Gene Krupa?
Posted 04 May 2009 - 02:08 AM
but yeah I fucking love jazz. however lately I've been getting more into jazz from africa so I dont know what to recommend to people but I've always found my favorite accessable jazz to be from the 50s and then after that basically jazz fusion so like a list of great musicians to check out (look out here comes a big namedrop of a bunch of not obscure people)
basically with jazz what you do is when you find a cd you really like you look up all the musicians on the album and see if you can find other albums with them on it and thats how you branch out. so one thing I would recommend is if you like bitches brew, look up the crew from there, cause there are some great fucking musicians on that album, gary burton, keith jarrett, airto moreira, and of course all the ones listed above (miles, herbie, holland, zawinul) all of whom have made some really groovy ass music over the years and they're not big ticket names you know.
edit: damnit didnt see sweet heads post lol. he said the most important things already
Posted 04 May 2009 - 10:36 PM
In the spirit of checking out other players on the albums you like (and that's a good tip) that's Anthony Jackson on bass with Camilo and Horacio "El Negro" Hernandez on drums. I don't know the guys in Chick's band other than John Patitucci on bass and Weckl on drums. They are both big names in fusion at least.
Also try going to some jazz shows or jams. Given how much jazz centres around improvisation, live jazz can be a whole other experience.
Edit: From Chick Corea, the album Return to Forever is a real classic. I don't know much about his discography, but I do know that one is pretty fucking good.
PS. It's a peaceful 1 o'clock in the night here and thanks to this topic, I was listening to Flamenco Sketches off Kind of Blue and it just started to rain slow and quiet and maaaaaaaaaaan
Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:45 PM
This is an awfully WHITE bunch right here, so ill throw in a holla to dizzy gillespie and thelonious monk too
Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:56 PM
EVERYONE HOLLA AT BIRD PARKER true story miles davis was in a limo with bird and he said he had one hand in a girl's vagina and the other eating fried chicken and he switched them a lot and miles davis wanted to barf.
Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:01 PM
Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:03 PM
Have you listened to any of his records? There's a ton of blues in there.
django is gypsy jazz tho and I can't describe him as BLUESY.
Early jazz guitarists didn't really stray too far from the blues.
Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:06 PM
Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:10 PM
aaaand i just typed joie de vivre in all seriousness WELP.
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