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#5821 Hundley

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Posted 25 January 2021 - 03:53 PM

i bothered logging into this place for the first time in a year, so i'm gonna make myself post at least halfheartedly in this topic. the reasons for this are not clear to me at the present time, though this might change by the time this post has completed.
 
i just finished yakuza: like a dragon. more specifically, i actually bothered to finish the ENTIRETY of the yakuza series over the course of a couple years, all eight fucking games. maybe this information is pretty public knowledge now, but it's really pretty shocking how good that entire series of games is. i remember first hearing about them years ago and being pretty quick to just dismiss them as just another grand theft auto clone that nobody needed. hell, maybe it even was like that at first, i've only played the remastered versions of the game's earlier entries, but that's not something i can say about the series anymore. i'm hesitant to talk them up as some sort of creative masterpiece or something, but they're really a surprisingly nice series of games. pretty earnestly funny, and with a story that really takes its subject matter surprisingly seriously, and goes in directions you wouldn't expect a series of yakuza stories to go. gets a little hammy at times, but that's about the extent of criticisms i could muster for the series. it's fun, consistent, and very often great stuff.
 
and like a dragon is no exception. for the hell of it, they decided to reinvent the series as a jrpg, and it actually really works. it's not what i would consider an UTTERLY FANTASTIC rpg really, they were a little too preoccupied with the transition to the rpg system and the story slightly suffers for it, at least compared to some of the other, more impressive entries in the entire series. still a nice, well-meaning, fun game though. it's kinda like what persona 5 would have been like if that fucking cat wasn't there constantly making you go to sleep.
 
beyond that, i ended up falling down the goddamn rabbit hole of visual novels after playing steins;gate. you can probably scroll up and see where that happened. i figured i was missing out on something special after playing stuff like steins;gate and the zero escape series, and this ended up being correct. i distinctly remember storming around the internet back in the day, generally pissed off that nobody out there was bothering to try telling compelling stories in the whole game medium, since there's been room for that from the very beginning. but i didn't really think it was something that would ever happen beyond the occasional brief, nearly-unplayable douglas adams cameo and that we'd otherwise just get stuck with a billion call of duty games with the occasional post apocalyptic rpg that has surprisingly little to actually say about anything, least of all the actual notion of apocalypse. but i was wrong, actually. a couple pretty goddamn great writers snuck into the medium under this visual novel guise and actually wrote a couple pretty great stories. go fucking figure. so i started playing them a couple years ago, figuring i'd run out of really good ones pretty damn quick. i didn't.
 
because i'm such a fucking champion of the people, and if you've read this far into my post you must be at least vaguely curious, i'll even list a couple that i thought were legitimately excellent experiences, far better than anything i thought i'd ever live to see come out of videogames, or hell, even most movies and television shows i've been finding. maybe this will be useful to somebody, i dunno. most of these fucking things are over a decade old, and i'm really disappointed that i'm just now finding them. i wish i had somebody to force this shit on me, particularly those visual novels that look fucking atrocious but are actually surprisingly wonderful experiences. so i'm doing that for you, in large part because i'm kinda pissed off that none of you fuckers told me to go play umineko, which every person with an even peripheral interest in game writing absolutely needs to experience immediately.
Steins;Gate
Muv-Luv&Muv-Luv Alternative
The House in Fata Morgana
Umineko No Naku Koro Ni
Chaos;Child
428: Shibuya Scramble

and yeah, i know, some of these look fucking awful. you don't have to say it, i already know. actually, most of them, at first glance, look completely terrible. like half the damn list were games i picked up on a steam sale and then only played reluctantly during a period of excruciating boredom, usually because the reviews were so overwhelmingly positive that i wanted to prove to myself that they couldn't be that good. but each of these are goddamn excellent stories and i actually fucking hate your guts if you have a negative opinion about any of them. especially the house in fata morgana. i REALLY fucking hate you if you have a negative opinion of that one.

 

i still don't know why i made this post and lost interest like seventeen times when i was writing it. i came this far, so i might as well hit the post button. doesn't matter either way, there isn't a soul alive that's actually gonna read this unless i force the link on dada because he is TOTALLY DEFINITELY not completely sick of me losing myself in this ecstatic fugue whenever steins;gate is ever even suggested.



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Posted 27 January 2021 - 02:17 AM

Has anyone here played pillars of eternity?

I happened upon it just browsing around I think if I remember correctly trying to find a game with narrative that wasn’t fuckin boring and it’s so good, it’s so incredibly good.

I think it’s made by the same developers of baulders gate? It’s Kickstarter founded, a little old maybe 3 or 4 years.

It’s really really good, reminds me of those old school strategy rpgs like the earlier fallouts. Set in a kind of dungeons and dragons world but with a really distinctly esoteric feel. It has these text driven narratives in it like one of those lit rpgs. You can completely customize your character, make choices that build their personalities and make decisions that directly effect the world you live in.

They have a sequel that’s really good too. I’m playing the first one for the second time.

The narrative and writing like the banter and lord is so well done, thoughtful and rich.

I really like it, it’d be cool to see something like that done in the way Barkley shut up and jam or something with a kind of ridiculousness and humor of the way some people used to write around here.

It’s probably my fav right now

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 01:58 AM

thanks hundle, always a pleasure to see you post or your take on something that I was never really aware of. besides music, the only thing I've really enjoyed over the past few years has been reading, so maybe visual novels would appeal to me.

 

I don't think I really like video games anymore. traditional style videogames, I guess. I tried playing Death Stranding after watching Limmy play it just a little, and now the thought of spending any more time with it revolts me. the dialogue and writing is so bad it makes me feel insane and isolated, like there's really actually zero human intelligence on the planet and maybe ever existed, and every time I had thought there was in the past I just imagined it. like imagine earthbound's second-hand impressions of america, except instead of being pleasantly weird and quaint and based off nostalgic 80s and 90s life, it's based exclusively off those fucking awful netflix/prime originals that give the impression they were definitely written by some dumb fucking rich kid who flunked out of his private college's english program and whose parents bought him the gig. I could skip the cut scenes, but the gameplay has nothing to offer either. maybe I didn't get to the good part where it's fun. I'm just not that into the "gameplay as a fucking job" or "gameplay to unlock dumb fucking collectibles" model to trudge through it and find out. I've never played a single other hideo kojima game beyond a PS1 demo disk of mgs, but if this is his idea of his best game I should be glad I never wasted my time. but maybe I just don't like videogames anymore.



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Posted 31 January 2021 - 02:17 AM

I have enjoyed watching people play video games lately, though. Limmy is a full-time streamer for life now, and I like the cottage industry of scottish ppl who stream that popped up around him. there recently was a community Rust "season" where everyone was role playing characters that were slight deviations from themselves and improvising dialogue, and it was one of the best things I've seen in a while and maybe the only worthwhile permutation of reality tv there has ever been. it was a lot of fun switching between streams to see what was going on in different cliques. 1030jh's kinda mad-king doofus character and his kinda servant photographer were the best.

Has anyone here played pillars of eternity?

I happened upon it just browsing around I think if I remember correctly trying to find a game with narrative that wasn’t fuckin boring and it’s so good, it’s so incredibly good.

I think it’s made by the same developers of baulders gate? It’s Kickstarter founded, a little old maybe 3 or 4 years.

It’s really really good, reminds me of those old school strategy rpgs like the earlier fallouts. Set in a kind of dungeons and dragons world but with a really distinctly esoteric feel. It has these text driven narratives in it like one of those lit rpgs. You can completely customize your character, make choices that build their personalities and make decisions that directly effect the world you live in.

They have a sequel that’s really good too. I’m playing the first one for the second time.

The narrative and writing like the banter and lord is so well done, thoughtful and rich.

I really like it, it’d be cool to see something like that done in the way Barkley shut up and jam or something with a kind of ridiculousness and humor of the way some people used to write around here.

It’s probably my fav right now


I was a kickstarter supporter or whatever it's called. Josh Sawyer is great and was a significant part of what made Fallout:NV so good, and I was a big fan of the baldur's gate series, so I was pretty stoked about it. then I tried to play it a year or so ago and just couldn't get into it. unlike when I was a kid playing baldur's gate, it felt like a waste of time learning the lore of the world or studying how to make a good character or team setup. I do think this was a problem with me rather than the game to some extent, over the past several years I just haven't been able to give enough of a fuck about anything and it's an issue. unlike BG or NWN2 I just didn't find any of the characters interesting though. I got to the point in the first game where you make it to the big baldurs gate-style city, met like a dwarf or something who seemed maybe interesting but wouldn't fit into my party setup. I should start over and give it another try sometime.

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:54 AM

I’d suggest looking into it again, up around Christmas time epic I think it was gave the pc version away for free. You can get it on ps4 for 10$

I’ve never really been into games like Baldur’s gate. I’m assuming the dwarf woman you’re talking about is that animancer hanging from a tree.

I love the lore and the characters it’s got an adult lit kinda vibe to it. And the scripted interactions are so awesome

Several times in the game when it comes to making choices I’ll think that I conned the game or picked the best possible outcome for some fuck shit to go down. I love it

And died you get a character or your name inscribed somewhere in it? Because they’ve got places all throughout the game where donators got to leave their mark in it.

There’s also a sequel that’s even better.

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 02:21 AM

Definitely not a character, and I don't remember if I gave enough to get my name in the game or if every supporter did. I gave them money early on and read the status updates for a while, then got bored feeling like it would never be released, and then the next time I checked in they had already released the game for a while and just released deadfire.



Oh, I did play Disco Elysium and enjoyed that. love how I have 9.3 hours logged into it, beat it, and feel like I had a full, engrossing experience with the game, but have like 17+ hours with Death Stranding but am like 1/8th through the story and can barely remember a single thing that happened in it. the game blows

I guess from watching Limmy play it for 10 minutes, I figured the game would use the post-apocalyptic delivery structure to tell all these independent, moving stories revolving around delivering specific items that are important to people, and having the overall story of the game form out of that. I mean, that seems like the obvious choice, seems like a real easy way to make a compelling hit game while telling stories that reflect on society and humanity. Seems real obvious and easy, so who knows why they went full neuron necrosis amazon warehouse but with ghosts

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Posted 03 February 2021 - 06:27 PM

Yeah that’s the vibe I got from it, undead grub hub. Kojima just seems like he’s lost his fucking mind to me. I guess to a lot of people it’s all, he’s eccentric, brilliant and maybe so but I think he’s too far off the ground to make the kind of games he used to. Or maybe he’s just trying too hard to reinvent the genre

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 05:19 AM


dudde red alert 3 is totally rad man.


I didn't like it at first because I actually still sleep with my Ra2 box under my pillow but it is growing on me lots.

Dead Space is fucking awesome too. It's what Doom 3 tried to be.

Yeah, agreed, it was one of the best

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Posted 12 April 2021 - 05:24 AM

Has anyone here played pillars of eternity?

I happened upon it just browsing around I think if I remember correctly trying to find a game with narrative that wasn’t fuckin boring and it’s so good, it’s so incredibly good.
I think it’s made by the same developers of baulders gate? It’s Kickstarter founded, a little old maybe 3 or 4 years.
It’s really really good, reminds me of those old school strategy rpgs like the earlier fallouts. Set in a kind of dungeons and dragons world but with a really distinctly esoteric feel pillow. It has these text driven narratives in it like one of those lit rpgs. You can completely customize your character, make choices that build their personalities and make decisions that directly effect the world you live in.
They have a sequel that’s really good too. I’m playing the first one for the second time.
The narrative and writing like the banter and lord is so well done, thoughtful and rich.
I really like it, it’d be cool to see something like that done in the way Barkley shut up and jam or something with a kind of ridiculousness and humor of the way some people used to write around here.

It’s probably my fav right now

 

That`s one of my favs right now too actually 



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Posted 10 May 2021 - 02:15 PM

I love it, they’re coming up with an elder scrolls kind of open world RPG called “Avowed” set within the same universe that looks pretty good. I think the main reason it’s not as successful as it could be is because of the Boulders gate overhead RTS kind of game style, it’s more of a niche gamer type thing. The wold, lore, story telling, and narrative is straight award winning so I think it’ll be a great game. If they can get it out before ES: 6 it could do really well.




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